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Melt and Pour Soap vs Cold Process Soap Making

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I get a lot of questions every week, almost every day, about how to make soap. One of the biggest questions I get is if you can make soap without lye. This gets into the differences between various soap processes: Melt and Pour vs Cold Process soap seems to be the biggest confusion. I thought it time to lay it all out and provide a resource that can help beginning soap makers  and friends of yours who want to start, but have a lot of questions.

Can You Make Soap Without Lye?

There’s only one way to make soap: with lye. Think I’m wrong? let’s look into the chemistry a little.

Put very simply, when lye (sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide) is dissolved in water, it is ready to smoothly react chemically with oil. During this chemical reaction, lye and oil break down and bond to form something completely new: SOAP!

Oils are different from one another, so they will need slightly different amounts of lye to saponify (turn them into soap). Soap makers know this and make their recipes with a superfat value. 

This just means a good soap recipe has a little bit of oils that will be left over after the chemical reaction. No lye is leftover.  It’s all used up!

As you can tell: no lye, no soap!

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Claims That you Can Make Soap without Lye

So what about all the Pinterest photos that advertise recipes for making soap without lye?

They are misleading. All they mean is that someone already handled the lye for you and the saponification process is done. Unless they’re just completely off the wall, those articles are all about melt and pour.

What is Melt and Pour?

Melt and Pour is not making soap.  It is artistically crafting soap that someone else made for you.

Soap Bases

To melt and pour soap, you need to start with a soap base. These are purchased in craft stores or online.

It’s important to know the ingredients. There are a lot of claims that ingredients are natural when they are not, or they are natural ingredients that are not healthy for a human body. For example:

  1. Tetrasodium etidronate (EDTA) is a common preservative in melt and pour soap bases, but it is formed from Formaldehyde and some studies have shown that is causes cancer in lab rats in small amounts.
  2. Some bases have pentasodium pentatate, which has been shown to irritate the skin.
  3. Sodium Cocoate, or Cocamide DEA is banned in some states and is considered carcinogenic. 

So be careful of which soap bases you buy.  The ingredients above come from a soap base labeled “Organic”! So it’s up to you to do your research. Don’t rely on Cosmetic Database. They started out with great intentions, but most of their data is very outdated and many studies contradict their ratings.

Adding Scent

You can cut the base into small squares and place in a double boiler. After it’s melted you can add scents. I highly recommend using only essential oils. Fragrance oils are man made and often harmful.  Learn more here.

Adding Color and Other Additives

You cannot add oils to your melted soap base because it doesn’t have any active lye to convert it to soap. It will only make your soap soft or oily.

You can add clays for coloring, as well as exfoliates like ground oats. Learn more about adding color to soap here or herbs to add here.

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Melt and Pour vs Cold Process Soap

So, lets get to Melt ad Pour vs Cold Process.  There are advantages and disadvantages to each. I am obviously going to be biased to my preference, but I will try to point out some things that you can weigh when you’re trying to decide how to get started.

Control of Ingredients

This one goes to cold processing soap. As mentioned above, it can be very difficult to find a base without questionable ingredients.

Adding Ingredients

When it comes to adding ingredients, you have the most freedom with cold and hot process. You cannot add milk to melt and pour, or other additives that contribute too much liquid. Adding oils or milks will effect the hardness of the final soap bars.

That doesn’t mean you can’t add ingredients to melt and pour. You definitely can add very small wonderful amounts of oils, colors, and essential oils. It just locks you in to certain amounts and out of adding honey and milk.

Handling Lye

Dealing with lye for me is like dealing with toilet bowl cleaner.  There is no need to be afraid of it, just don’t let it touch you. I use gloves and pour it into water on my back porch (winter or summer, always outside because it gives off a gas when it reacts with the water for about one minute). I let it cool and bring it in to pour into the oils. Yes, I’ve gotten lye splashes on my arms and hands many times.  I’m very aware of what I’m doing and wash right away.  You can feel a little itch if you don’t notice it. Remember, no lye is left over after making soap, making it a healthy option for natural soap making.

BUT, if you would rather avoid dealing with lye altogether, melt and pour is a great option. Melt and pour has lye that has already been processed for you. You can melt it, add your own color and scent and herbs, then pour into a cute mold to have designed soaps.

Kid Friendly

Melt and Pour is a great craft to do with your kids. While cold and hot process soap deals with lye, melt and pour is a fun way for kids to “make soap” by melting and pouring into fun molds. You still have to deal with hot soap, but older children will have no problem being careful with your guidance.  And molds come in all types of designs: flowers, shells, Disney characters, you name it!

Have more questions? Let me know and I’ll do my best to help out.


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Kelly is the author of number one best seller The Natural Soap Making Book for Beginners and Easy Soap Making. She's also written multiple ebooks on herbal remedies and natural bath and body DIYs.Her journey toward better health has inspired her to make things in and around the home from scratch, start a homestead, and become more resourceful when it comes to health and home.She shares her recipes and DIYs here on Simple Life Mom and has a shop where she sells products for those who would rather buy than make (SimpleLifeMom.com/shop).

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  • WT Abernathy
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    February 7, 2019 at 8:20 AM

    We have been looking forward to making our own soap for a while now. In fact, Wendie has started a little library on different books to learn as much as she can before we dive in. It all stemmed for our want toad goats to our little homestead, and the question was raised, ‘Why?’ Sure, they’re cute and friendly, but how would they add benefit? Meat was out- again, too cute.

    Then we started looking at milk. We learned how to develop goats so the milk tastes good (boy, is there a lot about livestock management in doing that) and what breeds have the highest fat content for their size. We’ll be going Nigerian dwarfs when the time comes.

    But, we also learned we done;t have to keep our own goats to get a start in Soapmaking. We found a very cool little website, soapcalc, that lets us play with recipes and formulas and chemical reactions to provide an idea of what our end product will be. Looking forward to it.

    Also, we learned we will bedding all of this outside, so this spring, we’re hitting the ground running!

    Cheers!

  • Anette
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    February 23, 2019 at 3:00 AM

    Hi. Thank you for a great post. I have wanted to make my own soap but is not anywhere near yet. Your post brought me a little closer to it. I wonder if you have any information about making soap with ashes (birch). They used this back in the days instead of lye. So it should be possible. I have a grat supply of birch ashes so I would love to try this all natural method.

    • Kelly
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      March 4, 2019 at 9:01 AM

      Using ashes is an old method my grandmother called pot-ash soap. You can run water through the ashes multiple times (I know some people combine straw with the ash so it filters better). This will create the water you need with potassium hydroxide. This will make a paste or liquid soap, not a hard soap.

      • Patricia Barton
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        October 31, 2021 at 10:30 PM

        Kelly, I purchased your book, Easy Soap Making, and I’ve made two of the hand-milled ones: Lavender Poppy Seed and Charcoal Cedarwood Face Soap. I used the crock pot both time but my mixture never came to the potato texture that is mentioned in the book. Might you have any advice? Thank you.

        • Kelly
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          November 2, 2021 at 1:06 PM

          What did it end up looking like? What temperature did you have it set at?

  • kris
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    May 10, 2019 at 10:03 PM

    hello, i made a batch of castile soaps with 100%olive oil. I want to know if i can use them as a base for melt and pour method, like adding frangrance and herbs? and other “netural” cold process soaps. can all of them be used as a base as well?

    • Kelly
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      May 12, 2019 at 4:23 PM

      Yes, what you are describing is often called hand milling. You can use any bar of soap you’ve made and shave it or cut it down, melt, and add herbs and oils. Enjoy!

  • Lea
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    November 2, 2019 at 5:38 PM

    Actually I have added powdered milk and honey to my melt and pour and it turns out great.

  • Danielle
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    November 7, 2019 at 2:50 PM

    Glycerin soap base is prepared with lye?

    • Kelly
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      November 9, 2019 at 9:47 AM

      Yes, every soap must be prepared with lye or it will not be soap.

  • Ida Roberts
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    January 4, 2020 at 8:56 AM

    Question;
    I use one size mold for my CP and MP soaps. Why is the CP soap bigger than the MP?
    I use a hard rectangle silicone mold. PLEASE HELP

    • Kelly
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      January 4, 2020 at 4:45 PM

      Some recipes are made with a little more than that said pound to make up for water evaporation. This isn’t the case with melt and pour. It is cut to that exact weight and sliced. That could be what’s happening.

  • Ruth Paul
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    February 16, 2020 at 11:23 AM

    The melt & pour soap I made didn’t lather much. Is it because of the olive oil & coconut oil that I added in small quantity only.

    • Kelly
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      February 17, 2020 at 7:36 PM

      There could be a lot of reasons. Olive oil does not add much cleansing or lather to a bar. It depends on all the other ingredients as well.

  • Vanessa
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    March 9, 2020 at 9:11 PM

    It sounds like cold process is better but isn’t it MUCH more expensive than melt and pour? I would love to start making CP to sell it but since I would be new I imagine I have to spend a lot to purchase each item, correct?

    • Kelly
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      March 10, 2020 at 8:08 AM

      There is some startup costs, but you can choose simple recipes and start small with costs that aren’t more than melt and pour. And the benefits of knowing and choosing your ingredients is priceless.

  • Lindsey
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    March 12, 2020 at 11:35 PM

    I make cold process soap and would like to melt it down to make loofah soaps, do I just melt it like a melt and pour base?

    • Kelly
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      March 14, 2020 at 4:32 PM

      Yes, just make sure you cover it tightly (I use plastic wrap) to keep moisture in so it doesn’t become dry and clumpy before you pour.

  • linh
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    April 25, 2020 at 2:28 PM

    I love this post. Thank you. I want to make my soap with Tom&Jerry cheese shape soap with melt and pour soap base. But does it have less nutritive than cold process soap?

    • Kelly
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      April 26, 2020 at 9:08 AM

      You’ll have to look at the ingredients. I haven’t been able to find a healthy melt and pour but some are definitely better than others.

  • Mum
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    April 28, 2020 at 2:00 AM

    Hi Kelly, i was thinking of trying making cp soap for a melt and pour soap. I made it as a hp melt and pour soap, with 60% glycerin added. I read that cp melt and pour soap sweat less. My question is, should i use my normal recipe for cp soap and then add the glycerin at trace and then pour in to a mould? And should i add glycerin like 40% instead to make it easier to melt?

    • Kelly
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      April 30, 2020 at 1:47 PM

      I’ve never added that much glycerin to soap to I can’t help. Sorry.

  • Elizabeth
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    July 28, 2021 at 11:15 AM

    I was just wondering if you can use the cold process to make a base and melt it later to get more creative with the colors like melt and pour?

    • Kelly
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      August 3, 2021 at 12:45 PM

      Yes, but for ease of melting and pouring later I’ve found that I need to add about 1oz of glycerin per pound of cold process soap that I’m making.

  • Thanh
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    November 8, 2021 at 8:54 PM

    Hi, I appreciate your sharing. I just wondering if I use extracts for my MP soap, how can I add them in? Is it possible to do that? Does it need to be added with distilled water or mulsifying wax, or anything else?

    • Kelly
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      November 10, 2021 at 5:26 PM

      You can add a small amount of liquid to melt and pour, but not much. Basically, since the soap is already made, any moisture you add will soften the soap. You can add an extract as that liquid.

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